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Wednesday, July 12, 2006

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We're we watching the same game? Jeter got bigger cheers than Papi, and Arod wasn't booed he got the same low level polite applause that everybody else except Pirate players got. Your obvious bias is affecting your senses namely your hearing and your common. Why would Pitt fans give Ortiz a big cheer what does he do for them, also why would they boo Arod he's never played in Pitt before? You Sox fans are truly delusional.

I'm not sure I agree with this in its entirety. Watching the best, or some of the best, pitchers in the two leagues strut their stuff for a couple of innings against the best hitters in the game is pretty fun. Last night's game may have dragged a bit, but that's just the nature of baseball. And it seems to me you can't claim the players aren't trying or that it doesn't matter and then also claim that a guy like Penny goes out there and amps it up to 98 45 times. Clearly he wanted to impress. I think the players want to put on a good show on the big stage, and they do a great job of it, for the most part. I love watching their camaraderie in the dugouts (Cano and Papi: BFF!). In the old days, when the game was viciously competitive, this didn't happen so much. But now the game is a celebration, and it's actually kind of nice. If it started at a reasonable hour, it would be even better.

YF: I'm kind of iffy on the game from an adult fan's perspective, but I think you hit the key issue regarding start time.

This game should be played on a stage for the young fans of the game. They deserve to see the big names on one stage, and not be sent packing off to bed in the top of the second.

It should start at a much more reasonable hour. I would say 6 pm eastern, 7pm at the latest. Too much of baseball is played at times out of reach of the kids now, and I don't like it.

Bozo, you obviously have not been paying attention the last few days -- the Yankees get booed everywhere because they're the *Yankees* and Papi gets cheered because he's the biggest and most likable player in the game right now (he and Pujols). He also received the biggest cheer during the home-run derby, so much so that ESPN commentators remarked on it. If you've missed the countless discussions of both these phenomena, I'm afraid that's your problem.

Like I said, who got cheered and booed would have been easier to understand without Fox's dumb graphics and sound effects, but A-Rod got boos -- mixed with cheers, yes, but boos nonetheless.

I'll grant you that, YF. I was up past my newly imposed bedtime last night, so I might have been a little cranky. It is fun to see pitchers let it all go for an inning or two. But this game in particular seemed to drag on, not helped by the midgame ceremony, the late start time (8:45 ET?? Give me a break!) Players who go do seem to enjoy it. There are enjoyable moments in it. But still, a lot of it just seems so Foxed, trying to turn it into this exciting, thrilling, meaningful game, when really, it wasn't so much.

And now Bud Selig has suggested he will push for a new rule barring all All Star pitchers from being in a game the Sunday before the All Star game.

Under NO circumstances should an All Star game effect regular season baseball games as that rule would.

The funny thing is, it might have been a less enjoyable game because "so much" was riding on it. Guillen clearly played to win, and for him that meant fewer at bats for players like Mauer, who i was really interested to see, no Papelbon, etc. And of course, Garner is Garner. Not playing Nomar was really wrong. And Clemens seemed strangely absent. Not to mention one Mr Bonds.

As for the A-Rod thing, I thought the reception for him was mixed. Papi, though, was cheered. I think the last few weeks have really been a coming out party for him with the general public. The embrace of Papi by the entire world has been something fun to watch, even for a Yankee fan. It's hard not to love the guy, and baseball needs more guys like that.

Speaking of, I can't imagine Papi (or Jeets) head-butting anyone in the chest in a big game. And I don't think there's a 155 pound little footie dweeb who'd have the cojones (or whatever they call them over there in italy), to say anything about his mother. But maybe it helps to carry a really big bat.

I found the game, minus the late start and mid-delay, reall enjoyable this year. It's really too bad that they can't bring themselves to start it earlier and have the special ceremonies take place before the game.

It's amazing to hear some of the ESPN guys (including Boston's own Jackie McCullen saying that France was right to cheer him upon his return, and that he "just made a mistake." I don't care how intense it is on the field, trash talking is part of every game. If you can't handle it, you're not worth very much to your team.

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