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Monday, September 03, 2007

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Interesting list, thanks.

One question -- I've never seen "New York Yankees" abbreviated "NYA." Gameday, for instance, uses "NYY" for the Yankees and "NYM" for the Mets.

I remember seeing the abbreviation of NYA back int he 70's and early 80's. I really can't rememeber that last time I saw the Yanks abbreviated that way.

Seven years. SEVEN YEARS. That's how long Pena was in the Yankees' system, that's how long they waited for him to produce. In the majors, he was averaging .249/.343. At some point you have to make a decision on a guy.

Also, he's only starting at 1B for the D-rays this year because Greg Norton, the first choice, got hurt. He didn't even make the starting lineup out of spring training.

Finally, if Pena was on the Yankees right now, he'd be batting 6th or 7th, and there's no way he'd be producing as well compared to batting 3rd for Tampa Bay.

I'm not trying to take away anything from Pena, who's clearly having a career year and is finally realizing his potential as a power hitter. To have him in the lineup instead of Andy Phillips would have been great. But I don't really blame the Yankees for letting him go after 7 years of underachieving.

Seven years. SEVEN YEARS. That's how long Pena was in the Yankees' system, that's how long they waited for him to produce.

He was in the Yankees' system for seven years?

May I just say: Wha?

Or, may I say, that he only played 105 games in the Yankee farm system.

My bad, I was moving some sentences around and forgot to clean some up. I meant to say its' been 7 years since his MLB debut.

Not that it's any consolation, but I don't think that's a move worth second-guessing. Pena kicked around on 5 MLB teams plus the Yankees farm club, and maybe others. He was always a player about whom people said in spring training "this might be Pena's breakout year", but it never was. The Yankees made a move that virtually every team would have, and it took the lowly D-Rays for him to cash in on some of that potential. Not worth getting in a twist over, certainly.

VORP is a counting stat, IIRC.

They haven't had a stable fulltimer, so of course none of the Yankees 1b are anywhere decent on the list. I think Andy Phillips sucks, too, but this is a little misleading.

Another thing: I wonder if Teixeira stopped accruing VORP for the purposes of this list upon his trade to the Braves. I am surprised, to put it lightly, to see Youk leading him by a fair margin.

A couple of things: I forgot to credit Baseball Prospectus for the list. Their VORP page has sortable functions which I used. Also, they cde the Yanks as "NYA" to explain where I got that from.

nv, it is true that VORP is an accruing stat, but wouldn't that mean we need only total up the numbers of all Yanks' first basemen to figure out what total value in terms of VORP we've had all year? In that case, it is -5.

Re: Texeira. You're right about him not accruing VORP post-trade.

i think that pena had a out-clause with the yankees. he could leave if he was not in the majors by august 1st. he exercised it, and signed with the red sox. i don't think cashman had any choice (other than calling him up. i don't think pena's numbers warrented that last year).

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