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Tuesday, March 25, 2008

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For the record, just so everyone knows, I pick the Sox to win the series every year. Even in 1997. It's terribly homerish, but I can't help it.

The only difference is that nowadays I can make the case without laughing at myself, as opposed to saying things like, "No, no. This is the year Aaron Sele puts it all together!"

Since no one else has called it, I'm going to be the first to say the Sox won't make the playoffs. Chalk it up to the injury bug.

AL East
NYY
BOS
TBR
TOR
BAL

AL Central
DET
CLE*
MIN
CWS
KCR

AL West
LAA
SEA
TEX
OAK

NL East
NYM
PHI*
FLA
ATL
WSN

NL Central
MIL
CHC
CIN
HOU
STL
PIT

NL West
ARI
SDP
LAD
COL
SFG

ALDS: NYY over DET; CLE over LAA
ALCS: CLE over NYY

NLDS: NYM over MIL; ARI over PHI
NLCS: NYM over ARI

WS: CLE over NYM

AL MVP: Manny
AL CY: Verlander
AL ROY: Joba
AL MOY: Girardi

NL MVP: Wright
NL CY: Santana
NL ROY: Andrew Miller
NL MOY: Ned Yost

Yankee Notes:
- Giambi and Abreu will both have back to the future walk years. Giambi will have one 15 day DL stint (hamstring) but otherwise will get 60 games at 1B and 75 at DH, putting up 1.000 OPS in 550 ABs. Abreu will go 30-30 while just inching over .900 OPS.

- IPK will have the better season between him and Hughes, winning 16 games (3.90 ERA). Hughes won't be a total disappointment (13-9; 4.50 ERA), but will struggle with control at times (150 K, 90 BB in 160 innings).

- Joba will start a few games in July and August (4-2; 4.30 ERA) while Mussina and Pettitte swap DL stints. When both return, he'll go back to the pen through the end of their playoffs.

- Brett Gardner will be stealing playing time from Damon by July. His inspired play will lead to a 20 win August before he falls back to Earth in September. Melky will post just enough of an improvement (.830 OPS) for the Yanks to avoid signing a new RF.

- Kei Igawa fills in with league average innings across 15 starts.

Sox Notes:
- An injury riddled year with Beckett, Wakefield, and Buchholz spending time on the DL. Schilling doesn't return but isn't ready to retire. Papi also misses significant time.

- Dice-K emerges as the staff ace and mostly holds the rotation together (21-9; 3.25 ERA, 230 K in 220 IP). Only a ridiculous year from Verlander (23-7, 3.05 ERA) keeps him from winning the CY.

- Ellsbury struggles more than expected over the long year, with flashes of brilliance (50 SB, 50 XBHs) but his average (.275) and plate discipline (.340 OBP) show he still needs time.

- Manny has an MVP season (.335, 51 HR, 160 RBI) helping to keep the Sox in the race despite the rash of injuries.

- JD Drew bounces back to decent numbers (.850 OPS) while Lugo continues to struggle (.720 OPS).


I notice that in your predictions absolutely NOTHING goes wrong for the Yankees in 2008, other than the obvious "aged pitchers can't pitch 200 innings" thing. I assume this should immunize Paul (or me, I guess, even though I don't have such a rosy view of the Sox this season) from any charges of homerism, should you ever be inclined to make them.

(that is, other than the Yankees not winning the World Series, of course)

;-)

Few Additional Notes:

*I think D-Train will be awful, but he will win 15 games with that monsterous offense. Robertson will pass Willis and Rogers in that rotation. He's a solid pitcher.

*I don't see how the Mets can win the East unless they make a trade for a SP'r. Pelfrey is awful and the new improved El Duque is even worse. Even in the NL you need a #5 and the Mets don't have it.

*Prince Fielder's wife converted him to a vegetarian in the offseason. Now I know there is no direct correllation between red meat and HR's BUT...

What homerism? I've given a SFs a built-in excuse for their disappointing season! :)

Also, me having the Yanks lose the ALCS (not even making the Series) sort of works heavily against your theory. If you asked why I'd tell you because their pitching is still not good enough. But their offense is plenty good enough to get them there (especially with very good seasons from Giambi and Abreu).

Perhaps your accusation of homerism is a deflection from Paul's perfect example of it? All good things for the Sox (including a Series win) and nothing good for the Yanks. I've at least called excellent seasons for Dice-K and Manny.

And Gardner stealing time from Judas tells me something's gone wrong with him. :)

AL East: Sox
AL Central: Tigers
AL West: Mariners
Wild Card: Indians

MVP: Manny
Cy Young: Dontrelle Willis
ROY: Evan Longoria
MOY: Whoever coaches those Mariners (too lazy to look)

I think D-Train has a massive comeback year.

Perhaps your accusation of homerism is a deflection from Paul's perfect example of it?

Wait, don't I imply pretty directly that Paul's prediction might be exactly that? What deflection?

As for Paul, in the first comment he calls himself a homer, I didn't notice you acknowledging the same despite the rosy picture you paint. For example: great years from guys - Abreu and Giambi - who are past your happily and oft-cited age of 28, in their decline as you have loved to point out w/r/t players on other teams. Funny how that principle doesn't apply when it is guys on your own team that are in the discussion.

"I think D-Train has a massive comeback year."

I hope you didn't put any $ on that prediction Ath!

You were implying that my version of homerism was somehow worse. Far from it.

"Funny how that principle doesn't apply when it is guys on your own team that are in the discussion."

It's an interesting prediction - to me - exactly because it's unlikely. Almost as unlikely as Manny putting up the numbers I said he'd put up.

I think the Tigers are going to do significantly worse than expected. I predict a first-round exit from the playoffs at best. After Verlander, there's nothing particularly good in the starting pitching there (I predict a decent to bad year from Willis) and their bullpen is weak without Zumaya. They might be able to bop their way to the playoffs, but they can't bop through them, as they say.

The only thing all 6 of us agreed unanimously on were the Orioles, Pirates and Giants finishing last. What does that say about those 3?

"Kei Igawa fills in with league average innings across 15 starts."

Hehe.

Count me as one that thinks Dontrelle won't be much better but that offense will help (16-11, 5.25 ERA).

I didn't John, but I considered it!

The Tigers rotation isn't overpowering by any means, but it's simply good enough to win. Verlander, Bonderman, Robertson make up a pretty strong 3. The bullpen is a bunch of no names, but they are still decent. Bobby Seay, Grilli and Jones closing is enough to win 95 games. I agree with you that they won't go far in the playoffs. That's where you can't bash your way to victories just ask the Yankees.

"Count me as one that thinks Dontrelle won't be much better but that offense will help (16-11, 5.25 ERA)."

It's a banner day A YF and I agree on something!

The Tigers are interesting to me. I think they're like the recent Yankee teams. Tons of offense - maybe 1000 runs - and decent but not great pitching (apart from Verlander). That feels like a very good regular season team but one that loses to better starting pitching in October. It all depends on the guys after Verlander. They need one of Willis, Robertson, or Bonderman to be a legit #2 and the rest to be at least league average.

I think Dontrelle will get off to a fast start before crashing when people gets second looks at him.

Bah, why are "good" Yanks tickets so hard to get..

"It's a banner day A YF and I agree on something!"

Is it a fireworks day when we agree twice in one thread?

That's two things we agree on! Hold on I need to pinch myself.

I see what you're saying John, but I think categorizing Bonderman and Robertson as part of a strong 3 is pretty generous to them. They're pretty average, I think.

But I agree with A YF that if one of Bonderman-Robertson-Willis steps up this year (say to a sub-4.00 ERA) and the others can hold serve AND Verlander is as good as ever, the Tigers have a good chance. I just don't think that's going to heappen.

I don't think Willis or Robertson post a sub 4 ERA. I do think that Bonderman can certainly be somewhere around 4, with a real chance to come in under that.

Think about last year's Sox only Beckett and Schilling (3.87) came in under 4 and their staff was considered to be very good. Bonderman has the ability, now it's a question of staying healthy and finally living up to his capabilities.

Just so we're clear, I think the Tigers offense carries them, with average pitching, to 95-100 wins. It's what happens then I think the pitching will be exposed, just as John put it too.

An average AL starter last year had about a 4.50 ERA last year. It wouldn't be much of a stretch for Bonderman and Robertson to be that good - for both about 10% better than last year. And we know Willis was once capable and is still very young.

I'm just not at all sold on the Tigers' lineup, particularly when you've got Cabrera needing to adjust to a much tougher league, and a host of players likely to regress. I think Detroit, given their hype, will be one of the disappointments, even as they make the playoffs.

As for charges of homerism: Predicting a league-average performance for Kei Igawa stretches the bounds of credibility (never mind a 1.000 OPS for Giambi, when he hasn't hit that mark in five years now); picking the Red Sox to win the World Series does not.

My most optimistic prediction for the Sox is a decent turnaround for Bartolo Colon.

Yeah, I like the Bartolo factor as well, could really be an amazing pick up.

ok guys, before this thread goes south in a hurry, we're all homers to some degree, that's what makes us fans...a little wishful thinking about our respective teams is what keeps us coming back...all in all, i found the predictions entertaining and informative...you all make good cases for your picks...let's see what happens...

http://gothamist.com/2008/03/25/lots_of_suite_v.php

Pretty pictures.

What are the odds of Sox winning it all again? 20% at most? What is the probability of Igawa doing league average? (Or league average for a 5th starter, more likely)? Can't be off by that much..

"My most optimistic prediction for the Sox is a decent turnaround for Bartolo Colon."

That's about as likely as Kei Igawa pitching league average! Besides the chances of Dice-K and Manny improving like I've predicted sort of balances out the same "optimism" for him and Giambi. After all, the last time Manny had 50 HRs and 160 RBIs is, well, never.

Here's a challenge:

SFs - What good predictions do you have for the Yankees?

YFs - What good predictions do you have for the Sox?

:)

I think Phil Hughes is going to have a very good year, and believe A-Rod will win the MVP (that's not daring, in all honesty). Both might qualify as "good things" for the Yankees. I also believe they will tie for first.


I love the tie for first prediction, that's just classic.

I think that Arod, Jeter and Posada will not suck. There are my good things.

> good predictions .. for the Yankees

  • Ticket prices turn out to be a boon for the tri-state mortgage business
  • Edwar Ramirez develops new, nearly unhittable stealth delivery by throwing while turned sideways, which causes him to disappear
  • Joe Girardi wins a Tony with a stunning turn as Sgt. Hulka in Stripes! The Musical!

    > good predictions .. for the Sox

  • By adopting the Beckett/Matsuzaka Pound-Packer Plan™, come mid-season Dustin doesn't have to wear ankle weights on windy days anymore
  • Proving they are not a construction of ESPN, Red Sox Nation sends thirty-seven swing superdelegates to the DNC. And then invades and occupies White Plains.
  • Dancing With The Stars gets cancelled before Papelbon's agent gets called

  • ag- thanks for being you. people are starting to take themselves way to seriously around here of late.

    positive yankee projections:
    -billy crystal's option picked up after a slow start.
    -joba's line of fashion forward bee keeper masks becomes this years "white belt" among indie hipsters.
    -after a thrilling mid game announcement that a former yankee has returned to help the team, YES cameras pan to georges box only to find a surprised jeff weaver getting high.

    positive sox projections:
    -no more riverdance.
    -no more riverdance.
    -no more riverdance.

    general baseball projections:
    -after being incensed by congress, clemens pitches team Al Qaeda into the championship game of the '09 WBC.
    -the orioles are duped into a $40 million posting fee for a 1989 suzuki samurai.

    By adopting the Beckett/Matsuzaka Pound-Packer Plan™, come mid-season Dustin doesn't have to wear ankle weights on windy days anymore

    Oh my god AG that's the funniest mental picture I've had since imagining Julian Tavarez starring in the x-rated Shaving Ryan's Privates.

    Have to agree with everyone who isn't on the Tigers bandwagon. Their offense will be good, with Jacque Jones/Marcus Thames being an improvement on Craig Monroe/Marcus Thames, especially on defense (Went to several Tigers games at Comerica in the last few years, and Monroe looks like he needs a GPS system out there, not that Thames is much/any better). Cabrera will improve upon Inge's production to almost immeasurable amounts, as well as making up for inevitable regression from Maggs from what was a ridiculous year. Renteria will produce more than Casey, who he's essentially replacing in the lineup.

    The bullpen is crap. Crap crap crap. I think I read an article mentioning some of the high-risk/high-reward pitchers they're hoping to get something out of. That's great, but only when they're being looked at as backup (*cough* Aardsma *cough*) than to be your everyday 8th inning reliever. Fernando Rodney never looks comfortable on the mound, Todd Jones is eh, and Joel Zumaya will either be rushed back too soon because of all these issues, or his recovery will end up taking longer than projected.

    Also, everything the Sox need to happen will, and nothing the Yankees need to happen will. Eh, just kidding.

    Positive Yankee projections: They won't forfeit a single game.

    Manny now on pace for 648 RBI. Why are you so negative in projecting him, A? ;-)

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