Maybe I am late to the game, but ESPN now features as part of their previews a graphic indicating a projection for each contest to be played. Tonight a mysterious organization called "Accuscore" gives the Red Sox a 58% chance of emerging victorious, based on some fancy logarithmic calculation involving Manny Ramirez' career OPS against Dustin McGowan, the wind speed at the top of the Green Monster, Daisuke Matsuzaka's gametime body temperature, and David Eckstein's level on the Grit-O-Meterâ„¢. We're not sure whether to take much solace in a "58% chance of winning" (wow, the Sox have an 8% better chance than either winning or losing in equal likelihood!), but it's gotta better than the reverse, right? Interestingly, Accuscore predicts that Eckstein will have 4.6 at-bats tonight. (Or were they discussing his height?) It also predicts that the Sox will hit 1.04 homers, which as far as I can tell is more likely to be a better measure of the cumulative distance of all of Julio Lugo's batted balls than an actual number of round-trippers. For some reason the simulator kept conking out everytime "Virtual Tito" brought in Javy Lopez to face a lefty, an error message indicating "ERROR CODE 22555222- REVERSE SPLIT".
We don't care much for simulators, at least not when we can watch the real thing. So use this as your thread for late afternoon baseball discussions and tonight's Sox-Jays contest. Lineups (Sox fans avert your eyes from the #6 - #9 spots, ugh) after the jump.
Red Sox
1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. Mike Lowell, 3B
6. Brandon Moss, RF
7. Jason Varitek, C
8. Coco Crisp, CF
9. Julio Lugo, SS
Daisuke Matsuzaka, SP
Blue Jays
1. Alex Rios, RF
2. David Eckstein, SS
3. Scott Rolen, 3B
4. Matt Stairs, DH
5. Vernon Wells, CF
6. Lyle Overbay, 1B
7. Aaron Hill, 2B
8. Adam Lind, LF
9. Gregg Zaun, C
Dustin McGowan, SP



Sox lineup here:
http://www.fenwaywest.com
Posted by: Matt | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 04:42 PM
Sox lineup also here. As in, the post right above you.
Posted by: Paul SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 05:10 PM
Lineup wasn't there when Matt posted, Paul.
I put it up once the Globe posted.
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 05:14 PM
Ahh. Thought it was a gratuitous ad. Apologies...
Posted by: Paul SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 05:35 PM
SF's original post here made me chuckle multiple times. Very clever.
Now please lose tonight!
Posted by: IronHorse (yf) | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 05:53 PM
"Daisuke Matsuzaka's gametime body temperature"
I hope that this piece of information was not discovered with a rectal thermometer.
Posted by: SoxFan | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 06:19 PM
Solid first innign for Daisuke. Come on what offense we have left!
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:12 PM
and David Eckstein's level on the Grit-O-Meterâ„¢
I laughed so hard when I read this that snot came out of my nose.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:15 PM
Do we in fact have any offense left?
Posted by: rootbeerfloat | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:16 PM
Pedroia makes me vomit. Youk tries but can't hold up., This gonna go AWFUL
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:16 PM
WHOA!!!
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:17 PM
That was quite an F-Bomb by Youks
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:17 PM
I hope that this piece of information was not discovered with a rectal thermometer.
SIGH, you want to take all the fun out of taking your temperature!
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:17 PM
HAHA I heard the f-bomb too!
Great play by the left-fielder to track down that ball.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:18 PM
Hey Dio, save some histrionics for the later innings, huh?
I mean, if Pedroia's first pitch swing makes you want to vomit, how are you possibly going to top that when the Jays actually score? Gargle razorblades? Hula-hoop on the interstate? Sever a limb?
Posted by: stuck working | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:19 PM
WHOA what, Dio? Have some pity on those of us stuck on conf calls watching on gameday...
Posted by: rootbeerfloat | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:19 PM
NESN cut to the dugout after Youk struck out, rbf. He was wiping his face with a towel then shouteda nice and loud F-bomb. NESN, without a 7 secodn delay, broadcast it it in all its unbleeped glory
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:21 PM
Wow. Nice play Youk!
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:21 PM
Youuuuuuuuuk!
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:21 PM
That's hilarious. I miss EVERYTHING being at work!
Posted by: rootbeerfloat | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:22 PM
Dio - If you really want to vomit check out the yankees with bases loaded and no one out.
Posted by: rootbeerfloat | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:23 PM
Hey RBF, they're lucky to have one out... it was bses loaded with zero outs before Matsui flied out.
Ugh, three straight balls to Giambi. Bonderman is afraid of the plate.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:25 PM
Jays down. Lets see some patience at the plate Manny, Mikey and... oh.. ummm...
well, shit.
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:27 PM
Daisuke with another three-up three-down inning. Nice to see.
Giambi hits a sac-fly, he hit it in the gap but it stayed in the air JUST long enough to get caught. Somehow Jeter doesn't tag up and go to third cause he sucks, apparently.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:28 PM
Goddamnit Melky singles. 2-0 Yanks.
Manny Ramirez drinks your milkshake!
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:29 PM
I love Manny
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:29 PM
Ugh Lowell
1. Why are you swinging at the first pitch?
2. Why are you swinging at THAT pitch?
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:30 PM
DOES NO ONE HAVE ANY PLATE EDISCIPLINE????????
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:31 PM
Hehe the Brewers are playing on ESPN, and they have the pitcher batting 8th, the catcher 9th. Gotta suck if you're that catcher.
Ugh, at least Moss hit it hard. Come on Varitek!
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:32 PM
Jorge Posada and Mike Lowell are groaning all the way to the bank. Have there been two less productive high profile position player signings this year?
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:32 PM
Tek is molasses. Jacoby would have been on second.
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:33 PM
Last night's win takes the edge off the fact that the Sox' offense is pathetic right now, that's two more innings of nothing, to go with eight yesterday and 9 the day before and 8 the day before that. This is brutal.
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:34 PM
Have there been two less productive high profile position player signings this year?
I started to type Barry Zito before realizing you said "position players".
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:35 PM
Tigers threatening in the 2nd, runners on 1st and 2nd with zero outs.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:36 PM
Daisuke is dealing.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:37 PM
Hey SF, what about Andruw Jones?
Posted by: stuck working | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:38 PM
Holy crap Pedroia is a f*cking vacuum!
Haha Remdawg agrees.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:38 PM
Zito was last year, too.
Actually, come to think of it, A-Rod has been a bust too at his price!
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:38 PM
I'm a HUGE fan of this get-ahead-of-batters Daisuke.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:39 PM
SW: good call, he's up there too.
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:40 PM
I know Zito was signed last year, but I think his bustitude (eww?) has been so great that it warrants mentioning. And to think he was the first pitcher I picked in my fantasy league.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:41 PM
What the hell? That pitch was a strike, AND he went around!
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:43 PM
Whew, fly out to Coco. Daisuke survives the ump's sudden shrunken strikezone.
Heh, try saying that five times fast.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:44 PM
Screw this ump
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:45 PM
Screw Coco. WHERE'S OUR DISCIPLINE????
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:48 PM
Also, SF, back on the bad position player contracts, think of all the money Toronto is paying Frank Thomas to play for Oakland this year (since we are watching a Jays game). That signing wasn't this year, but that's a terrible waste of money.
Posted by: stuck working | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:49 PM
six runs in the last 38+ innings. Oof.
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:52 PM
Good call stuck, that was a HORRIBLE move by the Jays. "Oh my God, Frank Thomas isn't hitting well IN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF THE SEASON. Let's get rid of him! That way we don't have to play him, but we still get to pay him!"
And people wonder why the Blue Jays suck.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:52 PM
Lugo is back to his old self, his average is going to hit .250 very soon, dropping like a stone.
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:54 PM
First decent at bat of the night even if it ends in an out. Hope everyone else was watchign and learning.
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:54 PM
And I did qualify the expensive bust as a "high profile signing", which Frank Thomas marginally qualifies as. Big name, but well past his prime. Lowell and Posada were coming off huge seasons, they were aging but not old, and Lowell had just won a WS MVP. I was careful with my descriptives.
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:55 PM
Daisuke sits Mr Grit down on three pitches. Nice to see.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:56 PM
That was a n amazing grtty strike out by Gritmaster Eckstein. Hell, it wasnt even a strike out. It was a grit-out
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:57 PM
Wow, this ump's strikezone is changing by the inning. It was a strike call, which helps Daisuke, but it's really lame to have the strikezone floating all over the place.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:58 PM
Okay this strikezone is BS.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 07:59 PM
Goddamnit stairs singles. F*ck you, ump.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:01 PM
Shit, 4-pitch walk.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:03 PM
Wow, the trivia question of the night: who was the last pitcher to lose three straight complete games?
Roy Halladay in 2003.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:04 PM
WHEW, great play by Lowell to end the inning.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:05 PM
These offense-free games move at a pretty good clip.
Posted by: stuck working | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:06 PM
I'd still love some offense, stuck. From the Sox, that is.
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:08 PM
*sighs* Youk ground out.
God damn it.
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:09 PM
Wow, McGowan K's Ortiz on a wicked curveball.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:11 PM
"The Red Sox have gone 36 innings between Extra Base Hits"
Wow, that's even crazier than the lack-of-runs stretch we have going.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:12 PM
Geez, the curveball gets Manny too.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:13 PM
Are we really this bad? Thsi is atrocious baseball we're playing.
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:13 PM
If the Sox lose this one, it's the last day we get to say it's only April.
Posted by: stuck working | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:17 PM
Just the offense, Dio.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:18 PM
Another 1-2-3 inning for Dice. He's at 82 pitches after 5.0 innings. Not amazing efficiency, but still good considering he's only allowed 3 baserunners.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:22 PM
Lowell gives it a ride but it dies in the air.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:24 PM
SO much frustration. Lowell should have had a double. Stupid weather.
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:26 PM
Tek looked simply confused up there.
Posted by: stuck working | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:28 PM
At least Pettitte just gave up the lead in the Yanks game.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:31 PM
Wow GREAT play by Daisuke to get to first.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:32 PM
And Pettitte gives up another homerun! 4-2 Tigers.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:32 PM
Goddamnit, double off the wall.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:37 PM
I was hoping Daisuke would start the 7th, but he's up over 100 pitches now so that's doubtful.
Wow, fan bare-hands a foul ball that was SCORCHED at him.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:39 PM
Delcarmen up in the 'pen. Looks like we'll see the patented Delcarmen-Okajima-Papelbon 7th-8th-9th, unless some runs are given up.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:40 PM
STRIKEOUT ends the inning! Runs please.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:40 PM
On a completely unrelated note, I just flipped over to TNT for the end of the Cavs/Wiz game and I must say: Gilbert Arenas has a very nice outfit on.
Posted by: stuck working | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:43 PM
Coco and Julio battling to see who can get to .200 first.
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:44 PM
Wow, how did Lebron miss that shot? And more importantly, how did they not call a foul on him?
Gilbert's got a kick-ass blazer on.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:45 PM
I see we share a fashion sense, Atheose.
Posted by: stuck working | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:46 PM
Hey, Coco is hitting .281 and Lugo is at .284. Both are better than they performed last year, so I'll take it.
I also maintain that Lugo is looking a LOT more relaxed at the plate. This is a great at-bat too; he's worked a full count and fouled off a few pitches. And then he grounds out. Bleh.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:47 PM
I hate this team right now
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:48 PM
(sigh) Anyone remember the old days? You know, when the Sox could actually get more than 5 hits a game?
Posted by: bostondreamer | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:48 PM
Stuck, I've got an old calf-skin blazer that's almost the same color as Gilbert's. It's a tad darker, but still sweet nonetheless.
Wow, ump is squeezing McGowan now. Not that I'm complaining...
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:48 PM
Pedroia grounds out to McGowan, goddamnit. Delcarmen likely coming in for Daisuke, though Gameday is so far behind that I'm not sure. Yet another great pitching performance that will go unrewarded.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:51 PM
Coco and Julio were hitting in the mid .300s about a week ago. Their averages are artificial, and will be much lower in another week, I am pretty confident. Coco is a lost cause at the dish, and Lugo has no power left at all. Wonder where it went...
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:51 PM
40-something innings and six runs. F*ck these guys. Halladay I can understand, but come on, Shields? McGowan? EDWIN JACKSON? Seriously?
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:52 PM
Nevermind, Daisuke still out there. He gives up his third long fly ball in a row, Manny did a good job of tracking it down.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:53 PM
SF, did you see Daisuke's face after that fly ball? He clearly looks gassed.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:53 PM
The ball keeps jsut dying, fortunatley for us this time.
I'm SHOCKED Daisuke is still in this agem with such a rested pen.
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:53 PM
Not watching. I didn't subscribe to Extra Innings this season, trying to save the family some money. It's awful. I am probably going to succumb soon, I've already told Mrs SF that I can't deal with not watching any games. I hate Gameday as well, the terrible delay isn't helping lessen a desire to spend the money.
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:56 PM
1-2-3 inning for Daisuke. 7IP, 2H, 2BB, 4K. Great outing.
PLEASE GET HIM SOME RUNS! At least we get Youk, Papi and Manny.
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:56 PM
SF, would MLB.tv be cheaper? Certainly the quality would be less but wouldn't it give you the games and still save you some money?
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:57 PM
Yeah, maybe Dio, but is MLB.tv any good? I tried it last year for a week and it too sucked, just like Gameday.
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 08:59 PM
F*CK YES PAPIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Posted by: Atheose | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 09:00 PM
I LOVE MY BIG PAPI!
Posted by: Dionysus | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 09:00 PM
PAPI!
Posted by: SF | Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 09:00 PM