On the Road Again: Sox-Tigers Gamer IV
Tonight the first place Sox face off against the last-place Tigers. Though we predicted a World Championship for the squad from Michigan, we'll be happy to be proven wrong and hope that the Sox use tonight as an opportunity to make things even harder for the boys from Detroit. Today the Tigers DFA'd Jacque Jones, perhaps a first step in reshaping their team for the rest of the season. Daisuke Matsuzaka takes on Jeremy Bonderman, full lineups after the jump. Comment away.
1. Ellsbury, CF
2. Pedroia, 2B
3. Ortiz, DH
4. Ramirez, LF
5. Lowell, 3B
6. Youkilis, 1B
7. Drew, RF
8. Varitek, C
9 Lugo, SS
Matsuzaka SP
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Carlos Guillen, 3B
4. Magglio Ordonez, either DH or RF
5. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
6. Gary Sheffield, LF
7. Matt Joyce, either DH or RF
8. Edgar Renteria, SS
9. Ivan Rodriguez, C
Jeremy Bonderman, SP


Two walks and 24 pitches for the Dice man in the first. Hope he settles...
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:27 PM
Leadoff double for Man-Ram in the second. He's still pounding the ball; just not getting the homers.
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:30 PM
LOWELL WITH THE HOMER! 2-0 Sox!!
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:31 PM
thanks paul. i'm stuck at work for another half hour. for now, you are my remy.
Posted by: | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:35 PM
-rod
Posted by: sf rod | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:36 PM
Youk starts off 0-2, works the count full, then grounds out 5-3. Drew singles, Tek flies out to right, now Lugo grounds into the force to end the inning.
Still, gotta feel good with the lead.
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:37 PM
Sheff flies out to left for the first out of the third. Now 3-1 to Matthew Joyce...
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:43 PM
How do you walk a guy in his first at-bat up from the minors?
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:45 PM
Ugh, third walk to a guy that I'm pretty sure has no ML at bats. Not what you should be doing as a MLB pitcher. 1-2 on Renteria.
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:45 PM
Renteria flies out to the warning track, two down.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:46 PM
Renteria takes Drew back almost to the wall. Two down.
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:46 PM
Behind Pudge 2-0. Blech. Daisuke looks off.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:47 PM
Pudge flies to Jacoby on what definitely looked like a mistake pitch, but no damage done on the can of corn.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:48 PM
I-Rod flies out to end it. Better inning for Matsuzaka, but three walks in two innings with zero Ks sucks.
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:48 PM
Hopefully, the Sox can keep scoring. Dice-K's not looking like two runs will be enough...
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:50 PM
Pedroia hits a rope to Rent, who can't handle the shot. This with one out after Jacoby taps out, first base to the pitcher.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:52 PM
Error given to Edgar.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:53 PM
Maybe it's just the Sox uniform that makes Edgar make those errors.
Although, Lugo is on pace to make more than thirty errors. By a lot.
Posted by: | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:53 PM
Me.
Posted by: Brad | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:54 PM
Papi skies one to center, shallow. Two down, Pedroia at first.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:56 PM
Ortiz flies out, up to Manny.
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:57 PM
How's Dice's control? 3 walks and no K's.. at least he has a lead to work with..
(Disclosure - I have DMat on one of my fantasy teams..)
Posted by: Lar | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 07:58 PM
Manny took that one for a ride. Just short, looks like.
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:00 PM
Leadoff walk to Granderson. Four BBs now for DM. This is not going to end well if he keeps this up.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:03 PM
First pitch to Polanco is a head-high fastball, not even close. Frustrating to watch this.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:04 PM
Prediction: That walk will hurt us.
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:04 PM
High chopper back to Matsuzaka, Dice throws to second on a tight play but gets the lead runner. One down.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:05 PM
No way, Dice is ahead of a hitter! 0-1 to Guillen.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:06 PM
Guillen walks, #5. Good at-bat from Guillen, but the final pitch was nowhere close.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:13 PM
And then a four-pitch K of Magglio. Schizophrenic from Dice.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:15 PM
Then two pitches to Cabrera and a shallow fly to Ellsbury. Phew.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:16 PM
Matsuzaka keeps playing with fire, yet he emerges unscathed. 70 pitches through three though. Not pretty.
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:17 PM
Do you SFs who follow Dice-K much more closely than I, ever really see him overcome his control problems? To me, overcoming problems with your control, when you've never really shown great control, would almost take a miracle. Now, Dice-K had amazing numbers in Japan, but I think you can really almost throw those numbers out the window - MLB is too different in too many ways to even try to project from Japan numbers.
Anyway, does he need to overcome some mental or mechanical problem he's developed since coming over, or is this just a product of the way he pitches?
Posted by: AndrewYF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:19 PM
Brutally tough question, Andrew. It's odd - that last inning was illustrative of his skills and shortcomings. He issues a leadoff pass, then gets an easy grounder, then Guillen sees like 10 pitches and earns (really, totally earned, not necessarily all on Dice) a walk, then two efficient outs finish the inning. If a commenter has an answer to your question there's probably a job waiting in the Sox' organization for them.
And as I type, Youk goes deep to make it 4-0 Sox.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:25 PM
Sox piling on the runs now. 4-0 after Youk's homer. Drew with his second hit...
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:27 PM
Rent makes a great play to rob Tek of a hit.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:30 PM
Lugo whiffs. How unpredictable!
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:31 PM
Leadoff walk to Sheffield, not really close on any of the balls.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:39 PM
Popup to Lowell by Joyce, one down.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:40 PM
And then a first pitch popout to Pedroia from Renteria. Thank you, Edgar.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:41 PM
And the lack of control hurts Dice as a 3-2 pitch, borderline, isn't given, that's walk #7.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:44 PM
There's the first hit of the game, a single for Granderson. 4-1 Sox.
Four runs isn't going to be enough tonight.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:46 PM
My one-sentence, horridly ignorant evaluation of Matsuzaka is that he has a ton of trouble with control, but has the stuff to get out of the majority of his mistakes. Whether that's a positive or a negative, well...let's just say he's been a very valuable player to the Red Sox so far.
Posted by: AndrewYF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:46 PM
Miraculously, only that one run. On to the fifth.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:47 PM
Hard to see Daisuke getting past the fifth inning. Might be Tavarez Time tonight.
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:52 PM
Papi walks. I think Manny gets 497 right here.
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 08:55 PM
8 walks so far for Matsuzaka. I almost want to come out for the 6th just to see if he can make it 10 walks for the game.
Posted by: SoxFan | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:12 PM
Lowell now 3-for-3. We need Mikey to heat up.
Posted by: | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:13 PM
That was me.
Posted by: I'mBillMcNeal | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:13 PM
What's up guys, just got back from softball to see us winning 4-1. Very nice.
But WHAT THE HELL how did Daisuke manage to walk 8, only K 1 and still hold the Tigers to 1 run over 5?
Posted by: Atheose | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:16 PM
Familiar sight: Second error of the night for Renteria.
Posted by: I'mBillMcNeal | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:18 PM
Ath, we all have that what "what the hell" question.
Posted by: I'mBillMcNeal | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:19 PM
Good to see the old Renteria come back...
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:20 PM
Coming up on 2.5 hours, and we're not out of the sixth yet. Sloooooow game.
Posted by: Paul SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:21 PM
Woah, Schilling is going to throw tomorrow?
"Reports: Right hander says he will pitch for Red Sox this season"
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080505&content_id=2646628&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Posted by: Atheose | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:22 PM
Lugo sucks. He just sucks. Enough already.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:23 PM
Wow, Hansen with a nine-pitch inning!
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:30 PM
On ESPN, Hansen wows Orel with 2 unhittable pitches. VERY good inning from Hansen.
Posted by: I'mBillMcNeal | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:31 PM
What's this? A briskly-worked inning from a Red Sox pitcher?
No walks?
No excruciating frustration at the inability to throw strikes?
No "just throw strikes dammit" looks from the dugout?
This will not stand.
Posted by: SoxFan | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:34 PM
Error by Hansen? Goddamnit.
Posted by: Atheose | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:49 PM
Another walk. Jeez. Two on, two out.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:54 PM
Hansen has some crazy stuff, wonder if he can work out the control issues - leads Sheff off with two pitches nowhere near the zone.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:56 PM
Uh, what was the difference between the 2-0 pitch and the 2-1 pitch, ump?
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:57 PM
Okajima coming in for 4 outs.
Posted by: Atheose | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:57 PM
And, another walk. And Tito goes to get Hansen. Okajima coming in.
Hansen looks like he has promise, but leaning on him for two innings against this offense is a burden he may not be ready for, quite yet.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 09:58 PM
Sox getting what they deserve here - you cannot walk ten batters and expect to run away with a game. If anything, you should expect to lose.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Shiiiiiiiiiit.
Posted by: Atheose | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Hansen's line looks worse than it was, thanks to Oki giving up the single and losing the inherited runners. The walks weren't good, but that's an encouraging appearance from Hansen, in my book. Not there yet, but getting somewhere, at least.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Tigers balk!
Posted by: Atheose | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:10 PM
By the way SF, Lugo has a better batting average than Ellsbury right now. ;-)
Wow, Lugo trying to steal third... he would have had it too if not for the foul ball.
Posted by: Atheose | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Damnit Granderson makes a good play to rob Ellsbury.
Posted by: Atheose | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Granderson makes a nice catch to rob Ellsbury of a hit and the Sox of a run. Slight "dive after the catch" embellishment, but a big defensive play regardless.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Oki's ERA is great but he's been giving up the inherited runners.
Posted by: I'mBillMcNeal | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Um, what was wrong with the first pitch to Polanco?
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Oki out of the eighth, nothing doing for the Tigers. A run or five would be nice, if Paps isn't available tonight.
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:21 PM
OK. Tigers will have to beat Paps.
It hasn't been pretty tonight but I think a 7-8-9 of Hansen-Oki-Paps (when it's not 6-7-8-9) will be solid. Hansen was outstanding in the sixth. Then he started thinking too much in the 7th with the single-error (scored a hit, for Christ sake, but is was a flippin' error by Hansen.)
Posted by: I'mBillMcNeal | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Jones on to pitch for Detroit. This could be fruitful for Boston given than some closers tend to struggle in non-save situations.
Posted by: I'mBillMcNeal | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:24 PM
PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
Posted by: I'mBillMcNeal | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:26 PM
PAPI!
Posted by: Atheose | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:26 PM
This could be fruitful for Boston given than some closers tend to struggle in non-save situations.
Or, if you're Joe Borowski...
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Man, Papi CRUSHED that pitch. Insurance run #1! Well called, IBM!
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Ahhh I love Todd Jones.
Posted by: Atheose | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Disclaimer: Joe Borowsi isn't a closer. But he plays on on TV. ...
Thanks, SF. I'd better go buy some MegaMillions tickets.
Posted by: I'mBillMcNeal | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Paps' strikeout/walk ratio: 21/1.
Posted by: I'mBillMcNeal | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:31 PM
uh, ump? hello!?
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Game!
Posted by: SF | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:37 PM
So, was Dice-K effectively wild or damn lucky?
Posted by: I'mBillMcNeal | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Both.
Posted by: Atheose | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Daisuke with a 2/12 groundout-flyout ratio tonight. Jesus he got lucky.
Posted by: Atheose | Monday, May 05, 2008 at 11:06 PM