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Sunday, June 01, 2008

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I should note that the stats, as usual, would be impossible to gather without the help of Baseball-Reference's invaluable Play Index.

I love baseball-reference too. I abuse it regularly on my own blog.

Manny's career is made more impressive when you consider what an easy-going guy he is. He is proof positive that you do not need to be high-strung to succeed. He's just out there, doing what he loves, having fun. If baseball weren't the huge pro sport that it is, he'd still be in the Dominican, playing for free. He'd probably work just as hard and play just as well, too.

The Boston media was rarely kind to him for his eccentricities, mainly because he rarely talked to the media. I didn't blame him one bit for that. Now that he grants interviews, it turns out that he doesn't have that much to say... I suspect they're just not asking him the right questions.

In any case, he remains the world's most interesting ballplayer. Here's to Manny.

The Globe has an amazing feature at their site for tracking all of Manny's dingers. Link here:

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/manny_500_homeruns/


Nice post, Paul, as usual.

Great post. But let me correct the record: Manny became Manny in NYC!

And check out the great story in today's NYT on the next Manny, Washington Height's own Pedro Alvarez, who rejected a million dollar offer from the Sox to go to college, and will be re-entering the draft next week as a top prospect:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/sports/baseball/01alvarez.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

Manny became Manny in NYC!

Haha, fair enough. That's a good enough segway as any to point Manny fans back to this post I did last year.

To Kazz's point, I'm not sure I'm particularly thrilled with the lede Gordon Edes put on his game story. Edes, of course, has some history with Manny. The story is well written throughout but begins like this:

He stood at home plate long enough for Gilbert Stuart to sketch the outline of his portrait. Long enough for Armand LaMontagne to cut the first rough carvings of his sculpture. Long enough for Annie Leibovitz to frame her photograph just right.

Of all the ways to lead a story about the greatness of Ramirez's accomplishment, Edes chooses the least important aspect -- and, along with that, the most controversial. I don't think Edes was thinking about using the piece to advance any kind of anti-Manny agenda, but I think it shows what goes through Edes' mind when he first thinks of the slugger -- and it's clearly not the positive, all-time-great-in-action thoughts I would have.

Despite constantly torturing my favorite team, I could never help but love Manny. This is a nice retrospective on what a wonderful hitter he was.

"Edes chooses the least important aspect -- and, along with that, the most controversial."

That's what makes him Manny! It distinguishes him. If he didn't do the statue routine, he'd be some other slugger on the 500 list. But that is his identity in baseball history - the hitting fool - See baseball. Hit baseball. Watch baseball. Fifty years from now, you read that lede you know it's describing Manny or someone else doing a Manny routine.

the funny thing is Manny didn't really pose all that long last night. Edes, who I think is a fine, fine writer, exaggerates here for effect, and I am not sure it's useful.

As for the above photo, it was an AWAY game!

See, that's exactly my point. Only for Manny does "didn't really pose all that long" make sense.

And I'm not intending to moralize at all - just Manny being Manny has a clear historical meaning. That's him! The effect is the unique place Manny has in baseball history. The numbers make him a HOFer (and those aren't so different from Frank Robinsons'). The antics make him a legend (and thus more interesting).

Congrats Manny! I love the fact that it was a 410 foot bomb to right center.

So, the guy that caught Manny's 500th just gave it to Manny, classy move on his part for sure, but that ball is worth close to half a million dollars.

I like to think I would give it back too, meet Manny, hang out in the clubhouse, get some signed stuff, etc...

I like to think that.

What about you guys?

That's a tough one. I like to think I'd give it back to him. But part of me would think, "Ok, I could be done saving for college for BOTH kids!" Or, "The house is paid off!" Like I said, I'd like to think I'd give it back but honestly, I'm not sure. Interesting though what a difference between this fan and the guy who caught Bonds's 756.

No way I am giving that ball back for nothing, not if it is really worth half a million. No chance.

As generous and classy it is for the fan to return it to Manny, the ball isn't Manny's. I couldn't ever give away that kind of money, though I'd certainly offer Manny himself a big discount if he wanted it back - he can afford it, right?!

better yet, you could have Manny sell it on e-Bay for you. I'm sure he'd be up for it.

Yeah, that's why I said I like to think it that, but frankly, it's too much money to give up.

I think I would give it back for a nice haul of paraphernalia that I could turn around and sell to recoup some of the money I lost.

Maybe. We do have a mortgage, a student loan and a baby on the way though...

> you could have Manny sell it on e-Bay for you

That made me have to re-read the dugout chat.

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