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Tuesday, October 07, 2008

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YES! that is all...

well, that, and how good does that Kotsay pick-up look right now?

True dat. Bring it.

Wasn't that Reggie Willits out at third on the squeeze?

But speaking of that play by Varitek, in my mind it ranks up there with clutch defensive plays in recent post-season memory. But since I'm probably still biased with emotion right now, I'll try to ask as objective a question as possible:

Best ever, or BESTEST ever?

Discuss.

During much of the regular season, I thought Kotsay's bat looked pretty done, and there were points where I wondered in this series what Sean Casey had done to Tito to merit his adequate but experienced glove and generally superior bat being shutout of the lineup.

Then I saw Kotsay playing centerfield defense at first base last night. Had a couple nice hits too, and would have been the hero last night if Texiera didn't make another amazing diving stop at first.

Texiera was the difference between a fairly easy sweep and a really intense four-game series. I kinda disagree with the tone of Paul's post because our flaws showed at times, while the Angels went out of their way to give us the series.

But Tampa Bay really better watch out all the same. A non-rusty Josh Beckett, Pedroia and Ortiz swinging hot bats again, and a refreshed bullpen makes for a dangerous team. Let's get 'em.

In all fairness, Tex played amazing defense--I think he had 4 amazing diving grabs down the 1st-base line during the series. Aside from him though... mediocre Angels defense.

Tex is just awesome - in every facet of the game.

Also, everyone thought I was stupid when hoping for LAA in the DS. Normally, I wouldn't say it, but: yyyyyyyyooooooooohhhhhhhhhoooooooo!!!

Congrats, Sox Fans. I'm pulling for a Sox/Dodgers WS, just because the story lines would be so rich. Manny/Nomar vs. Sox; Torre vs. Sox (again, but in the WS this time); two storied franchises, two great old ballparks, etc.

Yeah, it's going to suck seeing him sign with the Yanks next month.

In other news, Boras has informed the planet that it will take 5yrs/85 million to get your paws on Manny Ramirez this winter.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Come on NY, pony up! I kid of course. If NY did that, they deserve to officially be unrecognized as a organized sports franchise.

Wait, didn't he reportedly want 5 years/100mil a few months ago?

I'm pulling for the same, nettles. Then, I'm pulling for Manny to be sat on his ass every single AB. Or walked. Let someone else beat you on that team.

I just heard 5/85 on ESPN, Atheose.

Either way, if it happens, it will go down as the stupidest signing of all time. And, that includes Barry Zito.
One year in, that knee will act up, he'll start throwing away ABs, complaining about how the press treats his kids, and how much he hates the city, and then demand to be traded because of a lack of disrespect.

Please, Beckett. Do your thing, big guy.

Oh I believe you Brad, I'm just surprised because the number being thrown around this summer was 5/100. Guess Boras tested the waters (illegally) and found that 100mil was too steep.

Reading that LA Times article and hearing all the Halos say they are the better team is both laughable and maddening to me. So they owned us in the regular season? We own them in the post-season. It's like they have no respect for the fact that we are the defending champs! The win feels amazing, but how about a little respect????

The Angels, I think, are suffering from the problem that every team does when they lose a very close series filled with very close games. They're pissed off and dwelling on all the little things that would have turned the whole thing around, not the things they did to screw it up (or the things we did to win it) so it ended the way it did. Ironically, this is probably the way a lot of their opponents felt this year because they won so many close games.

I am a little surprised none of them gave any props to Lester, though - he and Bay were the MVPs of this series.

Boston/Tampa is going to be a hell of an ALCS - Beckett needs to get healthy and effective quickly, because we can't win a seven game series entirely on the back of Jon Lester, no matter how awesome he is.

I kinda disagree with the tone of Paul's post because our flaws showed at times, while the Angels went out of their way to give us the series.

My post very much focuses on how the Angels' flaws played into this series. It's not terribly complimentary to say you're better than an overrated team who feasted off weak opposition and made blunders all over the field for roughly four straight games. The Sox had some clutch hitting and some great pitching by Jon Lester, but the fact that they could win while two starters cough it up (which I mentioned in my post, I believe) says a lot about the Angels' weaknesses. In all, to pat myself on the back, I think I balanced the rah-rah post-win cheerleading with the acknowledgment that the Red Sox were helped immensely by numerous Angel mistakes and failures.

Corrected the Aybar/Willits mistake. Aybar was the one bunting. Thanks, FSP.

"The fact remains -- and this has been true since 2004 -- that the Angels' small-ball style of play cannot compete in a short series against a team featuring shut-down pitching and solid-to-elite defense."

I'm not exactly sure what type of style of play works well against shut down pitching and elite defense. You're not hitting many HRs off shut down pitching either...

The Red Sox were fortunate to capitalize on bad play; it'll be interesting to see how you handle a team that isn't necessarily "hot or cold" in the traditional sense, but one that makes very few mistakes and hits in all the right spots.

"And Jonathan Papelbon showed that Francisco Rodriguez may hold a record, but he doesn't hold the title of league's best closer. "

Yes, that title belongs to Mariano Rivera or Joakim Soria.

Yes, that title belongs to Mariano Rivera or Joakim Soria.

Or Joe Nathan.

I didn't say it belonged to Papelbon (what's that about assuming?). K-Rod is no better than fifth. This series proved he's certainly not the best.

i don't have much doubt that the best team won this series; certainly the better strategy won it. i think both paul and i (and many others) have been rather vociferous in our assertions that the sox were clearly better. they were, but it's important to keep in mind that in the context of two above average baseball teams, the margin that makes one team "considerably better" (choose your own adjective) is extremely small, and that the thinness of that margin is magnified in a short series. that's part of what makes baseball so much fun, and so frustrating/exciting.

I have been away all day, travelling, but I can't help but think that John Lackey doesn't ever watch his own closer pitch, that he's off in the hot tub when K-Rod closes games. If he did watch Rodriguez, he'd give our second baseman a little more leeway for his reaction following his huge hit in last night's game.

As for Paul and YF, well, I give them credit for having more confidence in the Sox' superiority than I had. And that being said, I think YF's last post is spot-on: the difference in quality between these two teams is very hard to measure. We discussed the "crapshoot" issue earlier this week, and though I don't subscribe to the idea that the best team always wins (even though they do, most of the time, Mr. Lackey), I do think that with some assessment the result of most series can be seen as perfectly explicable. These four games, in retrospect, showed the Sox to be better constructed for this specific series, and hence, the better team. The regular season difference of four wins (head-to-head notwithstanding) in the context of the imbalanced schedule renders those four wins somewhat less substantial. Lackey is right in that the Sox were inferior to the Angels during the regular season. But he would have been a fool to write off their chances before the series started, and he's in denial about why the Sox won. They won because for this series, which is all that matters, they were, but for one game, the better team.

As for these games with the Rays? I need a day to think!

That was Pedroia's only hit of the series. That's going to have to change when the Rays are the team to beat.

Regarding the Angel loss and comments that the better team did not win ... somewhere, the Rally Monkey is slinging his own feces against a wall in frustration.

The Angels' post-series comment showed why they lost: They believed they were entitled, and dweled on that rather than execution.

On another note, it just occurred to me that a Boston-LA World Series would, I believe, involved the oldest and third-oldest ballpark in MLB. Hard to believe that Dodger stadium, which played a key role in the movie "Better Off Dead" is now the third oldest Major League ballpark, Wrigley Field (Blues Brothers), being the second-oldest, and Fenway Park (Field of Dreams) being the oldest.

"which played a key role in the movie "Better Off Dead" "

refresh my memory- what was the part in the movie...

(**spoiler alert!!)

The very end.

Joe Nathan is so underrated (from playing for the Twins), but that guy's nasty.

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