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Monday, December 01, 2008

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He's honestly arguing that Will Middlebrooks, who OPS'ed .666 in 209 AB at A- this year, could help replace Lowell/Ortiz? AHAHAHA!

Great points Paul, I agree all around. Locking up our lineup for 8+ years is a fantastic move, both for the long-term and the immediate future.

Great arguments. I couldn't agree more, and I'm as excited as anyone by the (statistically chancy, years away) ascendance of a Lars Anderson.

Paul, this is precisely why I don't read Evan's site. You said it yourself, its a great looking site, but the content is continually lacking. Every few months I go back and read something, but its doesn't seem to improve.

I'm excited by Anderson too, but Evan's argument boils down to lets not draft anyone in 2015 because they could block someone we draft in 2020. I think the argument can be made that the Sox should pass on Teixeira, but someone else is going to have to make that argument.

I apologize if that seems mean. It wasn't my intent to be unkind.

I think that the pundits are overlooking the role of versatility and insurance as they think about Lowell, Ortiz, and Youk. If you sign Tex, then Youk can play at 3B (if Lowell isn't ready) or in LF/RF (if Lowell is good to go).

If Youk moves to LF, you can sit either Bay or Ellsbury (with Bay in CF). If Youk moves to RF, you can sit Ellsbury, with Drew in CF.

Or, if Ortiz is hurting and Lowell's good, then the Sox can rotate Lowell, Youk, and/or Tex through the DH.

In any event, signing Tex gives the Sox substantial insurance at the following positions:

1. 3B, if Lowell's still hurt.

2. DH, if Papi goes down again.

3. CF, if Ellsbury doesn't pan out.

4. RF, if Drew gets hurt.

5. LF, if Bay doesn't pan out.

In short, thanks to Youk's extreme versatility, and Bay's/Drew's ability to shift to CF, the Sox's signing of Tex would not merely bring a fantastic young bat to the team, but could also hedge against five completely plausible and substantial 2009 risks. (Four of which haunted the Sox through 2007 or 2008.)

Ouch, that hurt. Matty, I recommend you try giving it more than just one chance. Honestly, I am befuddled why you think the content is lacking. You're the first to say something like that. Everyone else loves the structure, the tone, the opinion/analysis...

"The fact remains that while first is not the problem, the Red Sox' lineup IS a problem."

I don't see how this is backed up. According to the 2009 Bill James Handbook, the Red Sox were 2nd in the AL in batting, second only to Texas in BA and OBP, and 3rd in SLG. They were also second in the AL in steals and doubles. Obviously, it would be nice to add power to the lineup, even with Ortiz likely better next year than last. We were 6th in the AL in home runs (though Fenway takes some away), and we weren't great at hitting triples, either. Still, calling the lineup a problem is a bit of a stretch.

Adam, I think you are right - the Sox do need to hedge against possible offensive declines, but why pay a 150M premium? I have a tough time believing that John Henry is going to take on a liability that is about 10% of the value of his company for insurance purposes. A T-Rex signing should be the starting point to another huge move like trading Youkilis or Bay.

A T-Rex signing should be the starting point to another huge move like trading Youkilis or Bay.

Or Ortiz.

Just Sayin.

"Adam, I think you are right - the Sox do need to hedge against possible offensive declines, but why pay a 150M premium?"

Texeira isn't the insurance policy. He's signed on his own merits. Youk, Lowell, or Bay -- i.e., the player that could be moved but that shouldn't -- is the insurance policy.

Even if Youk or Bay is considered insurance, $5-7.5M is still too much. Just because the Sox can afford to pay a backup that kind of money doesn’t make it prudent.

Evaluating a T-Rex signing based on his own production regardless of who he would be replacing would be not be wise. The Sox should be paying for the incremental production-wins-revenue over whomever he would be replacing though the life of the deal. And that revenue figure should be the maximum offer.

Still, calling the lineup a problem is a bit of a stretch.

It's a matter of degree, certainly. This is a team that came within two runs of the World Series. As it was onstructed, there were few things -- if any -- other teams would consider a problem. But offense (and an injury to Josh Beckett) above all was the Sox' main problem in their failure to reach the World Series.

The Sox finished with the fourth-best pitching staff in the American League by ERA last year, with their principal pitchers (three starters and the closer) at ages 24, 27, 28 and 27, respectively, with key performances in the second half by a 23-year-old. Meanwhile, the Sox did finish with the second-best lineup by runs per game, but they did so with six Opening Day slots over the age of 30. Internally, the Red Sox can or have replaced some of that: Bay over Ramirez, Lowrie over Lugo. But there's still Drew, Ortiz, Lowell, possibly Varitek and now Youkilis at or over 30.

Here are some stats that I find not necessarily alarming, but at least cause for some concern heading into next season:

- The Red Sox' sOPS+ dipped from 118 in the first half to 111 in the second half.

- The Sox were first in the league in sOPS+ from the second, third and sixth spots (Pedroia, Ortiz/Drew and Youkilis/Drew) and top three from the fourth (Ramirez/Youkilis), fifth (Lowell/Bay/Youkilis) and seventh (Varitek/Lowrie) spots. That left a gaping hole at 8-9-1, where the Sox were seventh, seventh and 13th respectively, and with Lowrie's injury, the seventh spot was a disgrace the last part of the season, as well. That's four spots out of nine by the playoffs that were ineffective, and Ortiz wasn't setting the world on fire either. The benefits of a Teixeira there -- bolstering the middle of the lineup and essentially replacing Mark Kotsay in the field -- last season are clear. With health still a general concern as the lineup ages, never mind the real injuries to Lowell and Ortiz (and even Lowrie), it seems clear Teixeira solves a very real concern/problem for the Red Sox: an aging, increasingly injury-prone lineup that requires redundancy to protect it.

- Finally, the Red Sox in playing their most important games of the regular season (the 19 against the Rays) outscored Tampa, 87-67, yet lost the season series, 10-8. That's the hallmark of an inconsistent offense that blows out a team in a lot of games but struggles to score otherwise. In September, the Red Sox went 2-4 against Tampa, scoring fewer than four runs per game. Throw out a 13-5 blowout of Scott Kazmir, and the Sox averaged just 2.6 RPG in the remaining five, with just one of the four losses by more than two runs. In the ALCS, the Sox scored more than four runs just twice and averaged exactly 4 runs per game -- 1.5 less than in the regular season. The Sox lost two games by two runs or less.

Granted, Tampa had a great pitching staff, but how much would Teixeira have helped in the Sox' FIVE one- or two-run losses to the Rays after Sept. 1? A win in any of those games likely would have placed the Sox in the World Series (thanks to the tiebreaker/home-field advantage gained by just one more regular-season win over Tampa). The pitchers by and large were not the problem there. The bats were.

In a division like the AL East, general principles like the Ghost is arguing -- tying a per-win value to the difference between the WARPs of Teixeira and Lowell, for example -- simply fail. What is the value of another World Series win to the Red Sox? Certainly more than simply the one win or two that Teixeira on paper would give the team. In 2008, one win meant all the difference, and the Red Sox' offense came up short multiple times, particularly down the stretch (when Teixeira is historically at his best, by the way). I don't want to see that happen again, and I'm sure the Sox don't either.

Adam, just putting this out there, but Bay cannot play center. He may be a defensive upgrade over Manny, but he's still a below average fielder in LEFT field. Bay should not play center (and hasn't since 2005). For the record, he's only played 1 game at right.

Drew has played center before, but over the past three seasons has played a grand total of 5 games in center (he played 30 in center in 2005). Frankly, given the fact that he's injury prone, I highly doubt you'll ever see him playing center for an extended period of time. And, to the best of my knowledge, Youkilis has played something like 18 games in left and 2 in right. Somehow, I don't see him being moved to the outfield. He's a versatile player, but not THAT versatile.

Teixeira brings some insurance, but not for Ellsbury in center and, unless you think Youkilis will be able to play left or right (which I don't), probably not for Bay or Drew either. And that's a pretty expensive insurance policy.

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