Keeping Score: 27

Courtesy of YFSF reader (and avid Yankee season ticket holder and almost-every-game-attender-and-scorekeeper) LSG, here and after the jump are his sheets for the entire series.  Enjoy, YFs.

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Comments

[sam-YF]

Cool post SF. Thanks. Im also a scorekeeper and season ticket holder. Ill upload my scorecard later if i have a chance....

[I'mBillMcNeal]

YFs get this, SFs get Jeremy Hermida.
Seems a bit out of balance to me.

[AndrewYF]

Well, in 2005 the SFs got a championship, and the Yankees got Jaret Wright. We know how you feel.

[AndrewYF]

Erm, 2004.

[I'mBillMcNeal]

Jaret Wright. One of my all-time favorite Yankees.

[I'mBillMcNeal]

Not meaning to thread-jack, but ...
11-6-9, Brewers deal J.J. Hardy to the Twins for Carlos Gomez.

[AndrewYF]

A very ancillary benefit to the Yankees winning the World Series is watching everyone run around like chickens with their heads cut off about how baseball is 'broken' and 'needs to be fixed' or it will die, and it's all because the Yankees spend a lot of money.

Even the great Joe Posnanski fell to the sickness. It's sad.

You know what the real problem is? Really? Truly? Every other team doesn't spend ENOUGH. Look at revenues vs. player salaries. I guarantee you that in the past 10 years, revenues in baseball have increased much, much more than player salaries. I heard a statistic that in football, player salaries are well over 50% of total league revenue. Baseball? Somewhere in the low 40s. And it's only going down.

The problem is not the Yankees. Everyone knows that (well, everyone with a functioning brain knows that). But the problem also isn't the lack of capping on the high end. That's been going on for most of the century, and it hasn't worked in keeping the Yankees down. Time to get to the real problem. No payroll floor. How the hell can the Marlins justify spending less on payroll than they receive in revenue sharing? That is a problem that is a hundred times worse than the Yankees simply spending the money that they earn.

It's sad to see that even the smartest of the sportswriters are completely and utterly missing the point.

Time to get with the times. Profit margins around the league are INSANE. Team owners are raking in the dough like they've never done before. Please, let's not help them out more by pointing in the exact opposite direction.

[Atheose - SF]

Hardy to the Twins? For Gomez? Ugh, we could have gotten him for cheap.

[krueg]

More different champions in MLB over the last 20 years than the "fair" NFL and NBA...

The $$$ is an advantage, no doubt, but it doesn't mean everything.

Watching the Parade on DVR finally...fucking sweet.

[krueg]

Thanks Leigh for talking Tex into coming to NYC!!!! This parade is awesome...I have goosebumps.

[I'mBillMcNeal]

I half agree with youm Andrew. You must consider though, that it's not just the Yanks' actual payroll, but the fact that they can pay all of the ancillary fees because they are above the ceiling, fees that increase each year they are over it, and fees that increase incrementally the more they are over it.
Look, I don't know if a salary cap would work. I do believe, though, that a cap doesn't work without a floor. It is deeply offensive that owners take lux tax money and apparently pocket it.
Still ...
(God, I didn't want this can of worms to open ... )
Here are other considerations ...
Our two teams are in the top four in payroll (this is not recognizing the gap from NYY to Bos and from Bos to Fla.)
1. I don't know if we can be objective about it.
2. It ain't simple.
3. Let's wait until the shine wears off. you guys enjoy this for now. Some snowy day in January, when we're restless and our frozen fingers need warming, then let's tackle it.
We're not going to agree, anyway, so why start now?

[Atheose - SF]

Yeah Krueg, I ran these numbers the other day regarding playoff parity:

MLB Playoff Teams

2001: Yankees, Indians, Mariners, Athletics, Braves, Astros, Diamondbacks, Cardinals
2002: Yankees, Twins, Athletics, Angels, Braves, Cardinals, Diamondbacks, Giants (5 carryover teams, 3 new teams)
2003: Yankees, Twins, Athletics, Red Sox, Braves, Cubs, Giants, Marlins (5 carryover teams, 3 new teams)
2004: Yankees, Twins, Angels, Red Sox, Braves, Cardinals, Dodgers, Astros (4 carryover teams, 4 new teams)
2005: Yankees, White Sox, Angels, Red Sox, Braves, Cardinals, Padres, Astros (6 carryover teams, 2 new teams)
2006: Yankees, Twins, Athletics, Tigers, Mets, Cardinals, Padres, Dodgers (3 carryover teams, 5 new teams)
2007: Red Sox, Indians, Angels, Yankees, Phillies, Cubs, Diamondbacks, Rockies (1 carryover team, 7 new teams)
2008: Rays, White Sox, Angels, Red Sox, Phillies, Cubs, Dodgers, Brewers (4 carryover teams, 4 new teams)
2009: Yankees, Twins, Angels, Red Sox, Phillies, Cardinals, Dodgers, Rockies (4 carryover teams, 4 new teams)

32 carryover teams, 32 new teams (50% new).

Over that stretch, every team in baseball made the playoffs except 7: Orioles, Blue Jays, Royals, Rangers, Nationals, Pirates, and Reds.

NFL Playoff Teams

2001: Rams, Bears, Steelers, Packers, 49'ers, Dolphins, Patriots, Eagles, Ravens, Jets, Raiders, Buccaneers
2002: Packers, Eagles, Buccaneers, Raiders, Titans, Steelers, Colts, Giants, 49'ers, Falcons, Browns, Jets (7 carryover teams, 5 new teams)
2003: Patriots, Chiefs, Colts, Eagles, Rams, Titans, Panthers, Ravens, Cowboys, Broncos, Packers, Seahawks (4 carryover teams, 8 new teams)
2004: Steelers, Patriots, Eagles, Colts, Chargers, Falcons, Broncos, Packers, Jets, Seahawks, Rams (8 carryover teams, 4 new teams)
2005: Colts, Broncos, Seahawks, Panthers, Jaguars, Bears, Bengals, Giants, Steelers, Buccaneers, Patriots, Redskins (5 carryover teams, 7 new teams)
2006: Chargers, Ravens, Bears, Colts, Patriots, Saints, Jets, Eagles, Cowboys, Chiefs, Seahawks, Giants (5 carryover teams, 7 new teams)
2007: Patriots, Cowboys, Packers, Colts, Jaguars, Chargers, Giants, Steelers, Seahawks, Titans, Buccaneers, Redskins (7 carryover teams, 5 new teams)
2008: Titans, Panthers, Colts, Giants, Steelers, Ravens, Dolphins, Vikings, Eagles, Cardinals, Chargers, Falcons (7 carryover teams, 5 new teams)

39 carryover teams and 45 new teams made the playoffs (54% new). Over that stretch only 3 teams did not make the playoffs: the Lions, Bills, and Texans.

So overall there is slightly more parity in the NFL, but not a huge amount.

[krueg]

Cap or no cap, there will always be the have's and have nots. Period.

My hockey team, the Buffalo Sabres are the smallest of the small market and even with a cap, we can't compete in terms of salaries, scouting, etc. with the Red Wings, Flyers, Rangers, etc.

If MLB instituted a cap tomorrow, it wouldn't matter. The big market teams would still be able to do whatever they want.

[krueg]

NFL champions 1980-present:

Raiders, Niners, Skins, Bears, Giants, Boys, Broncos, Packers, Rams, Ravens, Patties, Steelers Bucs

13 teams

NBA champions 1980-present:

Celtics, Lakers, Sixers, Pistons, Bulls, Rockets, Spurs, Heat

8 teams

MLB champions 1980-present:

Phillies, Dodgers, Cardinals, O's, TIgres, Royals, Mets, Twins, A's, Reds, Jays, Braves, YANKEES!!!!!, Marlins, Diamondbacks, Angels, Red Sox, White Sox

18 teams

[dc]

i suggest that we agree to table the "money" discussion forever...it's moot, leads to nowhere, and only causes hard feelings...until owners "open the books", and it can be proven that the yankees spend a larger percentage of their "available" funds on salaries than every other team, then we can't have an intelligent discussion about it...other owners have other priorities...the steins have convinced me that the baseball team is #1...frankly bill, i don't think it's merely "...deeply offensive that owners take lux tax money and apparently pocket it...." ...it's borderline criminal, an inappropriation of funds, embezzlement, given the intent of those funds....if the detractors want to "pee on the yankees' parade" with undeserved criticism for being in a lucrative market and dedicated ownership willing to leverage that, have fun...